Interview with God
Interview with God, Part
God, it's been more than two years since we
began this interview, and a lot of material has been posted to
the site since then. What of that new material seems the most
important to you?
"This is a medium of outer communication
between humans and Deity. Recently the most important events
in the relations between humanity and Deity have manifested as
a new and much deeper relationship of cooperation between the
Mother and me. Many of these new developments are reflected in
the material in the Mother Expression
"Three other areas are important enough
to mention. The channeling class
is helpful in making the point that inner communication with
me is easier than the spiritual 'authorities' on Earth would
have you believe. I am waking
up inside of you, and our inner communication will help make
this process much easier and quicker.
"The healing class
material reflects what is most in the center of my attention.
This is my work, and yours as well to the extent that you join
with me in it. Healing is not only desirable, it has become necessary
to the survival of Creation, and Spirit has some clear responsibilities
"As I do the work at the level of Deity,
your own individual spirit works at the level of humanity. You
are the vehicle in which and through which the healing will happen.
You are the 'venue' in which
the Mother and I will heal the Gap which has held all the death,
disease and suffering you have learned to take for granted, yet
was never intended. You are the healer, and this class is meant
to help support you in this way.
"The four steps
to wholeness reflects the pattern or map of how you can find
your own unique path of fulfillment and healing. This material
was posted before the channeling class began, and the second
step has since been revised to emphasize the importance of our
inner communication along with the 'driving backward' practice."
God, several questions come to mind. First,
you have mentioned several times that the new lesson in the healing
class about Body would be starting soon. When is 'soon' to you?
"This is a very good question. I've gotten
a bad reputation about promises I've made, but didn't seem to
keep, or at least didn't deliver on time. I'd like to begin clearing
this up now with an understanding about the healing class promise.
'Soon' can mean anywhere from 'sooner than you think' to 'longer
than you thought possible'.
"Since I can't say exactly when something
will happen without engaging in soothsaying, I like to use the
relative term 'soon' when I mean not immediately, but not too
long either. Some readers have already gotten a lot of the material
on Body from me on the inside as 'soon' as they read that it
would sometime be available on the web site here on the outside.
You can trust that you will get the material as soon as it's
right time for you, regardless of what I or anyone else says
"The Body lesson, like the rest of the
healing class, is about how I as Spirit am doing the healing
work at the level of Deity, and how your spirit can join with
me to do the same for humanity. On the inside I have shown the
channelers and others some new practices that are intended to
ground the material on Body in direct experience. As they test
the practices and work with them, the human level issues that
come up inform me about how to best proceed with the lesson.
As 'soon' as we all get it together enough to have it channeled
accurately, the lesson will begin.
"In the meantime, there is still more
material yet to be channeled for lesson
three about the Spirit polarity. However, at least part of
the Body lesson may come sooner than the additional Spirit material
becomes available. There will also be a new reality
class lesson that will put forward some fundamental understandings
about the nature of manifestation, which are necessary as a foundation
for the more specific healing class material about Body."
Thank you. God, what about all those other
promises, down through the ages?
"There have been a lot of misunderstandings
about what my role has been in the lives of humans. For a long
time I'd given humans the idea that I was both all powerful and
full of love for them. From this they logically surmised that
I would help them in the ways they asked me to, whenever they
asked. To this end they developed a one-sided form of communication
"In their prayers they told me what they
believed they wanted, and asked me to give it to them. When that
didn't happen, they blamed themselves for being too bad or sinful
to deserve my loving attention and assistance. Except for times
when they blamed me for being an all powerful, uncaring ogre
who ignores the pleas of helpless humans that didn't ask to be
born in the first place, who sends them more pain, misery and
trouble than they can handle.
"Neither you nor I am to blame for us
not understanding each other better here, but I'm taking responsibility
for it. Those old images of me were meant to get your attention
so I could be more 'helpful' in your evolution. Unfortunately
my help turned out to be more like meddling, and caused some
serious misunderstandings and imbalances in the relationship
between us. All of the difficulties between Spirit and humans
were reflections of the difficulties and imbalances in my relationship
with the Mother.
"The truth is that this is a free will
universe. Even if I were all powerful in the ways you've imagined
me to be, fixing things that go wrong in your life and giving
you things you haven't been able to get for yourself would make
a mockery out of your free will and self-determination, and would
not be helpful to your development as an evolutionary will being.
Besides, only you can address your challenges.
"A prayer asking for advice is always
answered, no one expects you to be able to figure all this out
without guidance. A prayer asking for my presence in your healing
work will always get a positive response because that is truly
my role in your life. I've said that if you want to communicate
with me, talk with me like I'm a mentor
or coach, but not like I'm your parent who is responsible
for you and your development. You're beyond that stage now, and
I am no longer feeling parental toward you as if you are the
child and I the adult.
"Your role as the healer who finds their
own wholeness means that you must eventually become
parental to yourself, to all of your energy, all of your
parts, all of your fragments. Wholeness has no parent outside
of itself. As you learn to parent yourself, you learn to become
aware of and take responsibility for all of your energy, all
of your lost parts, all of your projections, all of your feelings,
thoughts and behaviors, and even what you believe to be going
on 'outside' of you.
"Healing into wholeness means taking
responsibility for achieving wholeness. And wholeness means no
separation, no gap between you and rest of you. This is where
prayer becomes less important and channeling and direct experience
"Your wholeness includes all that has
come before, and I am a big part of that. And the Mother is an
even bigger part of who you truly are. You won't be able to do
this healing work without including us and our understandings
and points of view. And when we are in communication, the process
immediately becomes much easier, quicker and less painful.
"Direct inner communication with each
of the four parts of Deity is crucial if you expect to reclaim
the powerful parts of yourself that you have projected onto us.
This is why I emphasize the importance of the channeling class.
However, the practices in this channeling class are not necessarily
for everyone, there are other ways to commune with us on the
inside, and if you'd rather develop your own way of establishing
and maintaining a reliable inner connection with us, then ask
us on the inside for guidance about how do this. And if the guidance
feels right, follow it.
"Your own path to wholeness is the only
one you'll ever know for sure. Your life and how you conduct
it is your unique expression. It's good to borrow ideas and understandings
from outside sources like this, but develop and follow your own
inner programs and schedule.
Thank you. God, what is an evolutionary will
"Humans are one example of a very special
class of beings that have not been created, but rather evolve
as other creatures. The difference between you and other evolving
creatures, however, is that you have all four parts of Deity
within you, and your evolution therefore parallels ours. We share
with you the pleasures, pains, problems and concerns of beings
who seek wholeness, freedom and love. We're just a little ahead
of you on the way there.
"Evolutionary will beings have a very
special role in Creation. Although they are part of Creation,
they are the way they are not because they were created so, but
because they have evolved themselves to be who they are now.
And although they were not created like the angels and the myriad
other spiritual beings have been, they are not the Creators,
either. At least not yet.
"Your role as an evolutionary will being
is to carry Creation on to its next level. The way this is accomplished
is that you bring yourself together so that you are whole, without
any denials. This means that you will be aware of yourself as
each of the four parts of Deity, and as the whole of Deity. At
this point you will have become the newest part of Deity. You'll
then be ready to begin your own Creation, and the next Universe
will be born."
God, this raises lots of questions.
"Yes, it's a good thing we can talk about
this openly. However, I wish to reserve some important specific
questions and answers for communication with those who ask me
on the inside. But we can talk about it in general now, if you
Yes, this is good. God, in the first part
of this interview you talk about your "plan" for humanity,
and you also discuss free will. If you've got a plan, how is
it that we have free will?
"My plan is really Grandfather's
plan, and it includes all of the possible realities that can
be generated as a result of your exercise of free will. Although
my own, original plan was thwarted by events unforeseen by me,
Grandfather has shown me how I had blinded myself with my denials
and how I'd allowed myself to become weakened with guilt. And
he has shown me the way out of the blind alley I'd become trapped
in. I'm now following his guidance in mending my relationship
with the Mother, who is the final authority on free will.
"Because our development has been parallel,
I'm now playing the role with you that Grandfather played with
me when I asked him to help me heal myself and my Creation, especially
my relationship with the Mother. So, like me you have the freedom
to choose whether to continue on as you have, or take the advice
and guidance of a kindly stranger from deep inside yourself who
can show you to resources that can help you heal.
"Either way Grandfather's
plan will come to pass, and you will be more than you've
imagined being. You will have more than you've imagined having,
and you'll understand more than you've imagined possible to know.
And if you choose the path of self parenting and take responsibility
for your own healing, you will also have your own Creation to
recreate in any way you like."
Okay, thank you. God, you mention Grandfather.
Some of us have had bad experiences with our grandfathers and
some of us have had only positive experiences. How do we know
"Grandfather" can be trusted?
"This is a fair question since you haven't
yet had much direct contact with him, at least not in this medium.
He is very accessible on the inside, however. The term 'Grandfather'
was chosen because it is the term used by many indigenous cultures
on Earth to denote the final authority as Spirit, the being that's
beyond even the 'Great Spirit'. And also, it's an easy way for
me to communicate the meaning, 'the original Source of my Light'.
"I didn't just wake up, realize I'm God,
find the Mother and start creating the universe from scratch.
A lot of work on the raw materials of form and manifestation
had been started long before I became aware of myself, and it
was given to the Mother and me to use these as we willed to form
this Creation. This is another allusion to the relationship with
Grandfather. The Mother and I 'inherited' many of the present
manifested forms from previous
creations in which Grandfather had participated.
"You will need to have your own firsthand
experiences to be able to decide for yourself whether or not
you can trust Grandfather. I know this being well, and given
my experience with his grace and loving acceptance and good advice,
and given my own experiences with my own evolution, I find it
easy to trust him.
"This is certainly true when it comes
to my relations with the Mother. I've missed the mark so many
times with her, and yet Grandfather understands her needs and
desires in ways I do not. He knows how easily Spirit can override
her, and he cautions me in areas that I hadn't realized were
important. There is a good reason for this, and before we resume
this interview, in the Healing Class we'll 'soon' discuss the
relationship between Grandfather and the Mother, and more of
why Grandfather's presence is now gaining strength in this Creation."
Okay, thank you very much.
Channelers' Note: The material about Grandfather is now part
of the Healing Class, Lesson Three, Part Seven. Later healing
class lessons build upon earlier material, and it's important
to read the earlier material in order to understand the later
material. If you have not already, we recommend that you read
all of the pages in the healing class
before going on with the new material
with God, Part Three
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