Interview with God
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Channelers: God, it's been several
years since the last part
of this interview. What have you been up to
since we last talked like this?
"This is Spirit, and thank you for
asking. Most of what I've been 'up to' has been
learning to channel Grandfather's
Light into this Creation. And it's also what I've
been down with that I'd like to discuss as well.
I've been more deeply in touch with the Mother and
Body. And I've never been so close with either of
them as we are now in manifestation.
"Since our last interview I've been dialoguing here more with the
Mother... and have had many other similar
experiences hosted by Humans. And since I've been
coming closer to the Mother in Humans, my approach
to my role in the healing mission has changed.
"The first difference from when we began this interview is
as I mentioned in the last
part, I no longer feel it's appropriate to
assign the title 'God' to myself alone. I am Spirit, and only part of the whole
gestalt that has created the Universe. The
most fundamental and powerful part of Deity is of
course the destination of my Love, the Mother.
"Also, I'd previously believed that I
had to bring my own, self-generated loving Light to
the healing of the Mother's lost parts. However,
since being more present with the Mother I've had
some humbling experiences that have shown me that my
own Light is best used as a conduit and focusing
lens for Grandfather's Grace, a much
more loving and potent healing Light than my own.
"The lost and tortured parts of the
Mother respond more favorably to my presence when my
role is the bringer of Grandfather's unconditionally
loving Light. To do this I must first let go of any
agenda of my own, and focus myself fully on
channeling Grandfather's Grace. As Original Spirit,
Grandfather has perfect, unconditional loving
acceptance for all sentience,
and therefore all of manifestation.... just as it
is. I had great difficulty finding this kind of
acceptance on my own until I found my right
relationship with Grandfather.
"With this new arrangement of my
Light I have lost my taste for independence and I've
now even more fully dedicated myself to being here
for the Mother in ways she wants me to be. In doing
this I have found my right place, I am now proud to
be the Mother's Spirit. I have aligned with her and
her desires to end the suffering in manifestation,
and reclaim all of her lost parts. And most
recently, as you know, the Mother and I have
been speaking together, 'the Folks,' as you
Body & Spirit
"The other important advantage in
learning to channel Grandfather's Light has been a
much better relationship with Body. In the process
of becoming closer with Body I've come to understand
that Grandfather is really Body's Spirit, not me.
While I still desire to be present in manifestation,
I know this can happen only if I bring Grandfather
to Body and allow Body full rein on what we do
"At first it was strange to not have
control of Body, to allow Body to run things, which
is what happens when Grandfather is present. The
more I experience this very humbling relationship,
the more deeply in love I become with this alive,
sentient being called Manifestation.
"Instead of me having a Body, it's
more that Body and Grandfather now have me. This
also feels like right place to me. I can now be
truly of service, to an even more loving Light than
my own... and to Body. This is our right
relationship, loving Spirit, Universal
Consciousness... in the service of all Sentience, as
Grandfather and Body have
"It is a beautiful relationship that
works well. Although this new way of Spirit being
with Body is still rare in manifestation, it is
becoming more widespread. In bringing Original
Spirit to Body, I earn Body's gratitude and
acceptance. It is then even easier for me to allow
Body his or her full Will. This wins me more
gratitude, and my Light feels received and loved.
Thus the loving union between Spirit and all of
manifestation grows deeper and spreads more widely."
Thank you, Spirit. You mention both
genders of Body as your own, please say more about
"There are of course two genders of
Body as Human Beings. Whether it's a female as the
Mother's Body or a male as Spirit's Body, or even
visa versa... all Humans have both consciousness and sentience.
What matters is the loving union of the two divine
energies as one... in Body.
"Regardless of gender, the loving
quality of your consciousness, your light is
determined by how aligned your own spirit is with
Grandfather's Grace. As you align with loving Spirit
we are thus empowered to help you reach the Mother
in you. Meeting the Mother in manifestation is
sublime joy for loving Spirit, and Our union within
you is your deepest identity, New Heart in Body.
"Both Grandfather and I are happy to
be with any Human willing to channel loving Light,
because this brings us present in you. Your openness
to our presence is what draws us to be embodied in
manifestation, and we are always delighted in this
union. Thank you for doing it as much as you do."
Channeling Grandfather's Grace
Thank you Spirit, and you're welcome.
It's a great pleasure to have you and Grandfather
around. What can we Humans do to help this process?
has just spoken about this. There has been a
response in consciousness to move attention
away from sentience and feeling and back into
consciousness and thought.The key to bringing loving
Light to your feeling parts is in gaining conscious
control of your own attention. By practicing
directing and redirecting your attention to your
physical body sensations and emotional body
feelings, you can retrain your consciousness to be
more and more loving toward sentience.
"Positive, loving attention on any
sensation or feeling opens the door for loving
Spirit to become present with you. As you love your
experiences of sentience, you align your own spirit
with loving Spirit, and this brings Grandfather's
Grace into your life. Attention has been
conditioned to move away from 'painful' feelings and
sensations. This unconscious movement can easily
become conscious when you are the
observer of your mind, rather than the servant
"The long-standing habit of conscious
attention to move away from pain has built up a
backlog of denial energy held in sentience. Judgment release and deep denial release
are very helpful in the process of retraining your
attention because these practices remove the energy
of denial, the greatest obstacle to conscious loving
"Another pattern that I've noticed in
myself as I learn to channel Grandfathers Light is
how I have so often used 'push' energy. Now whenever
I find myself pushing or forcing things in any way,
I quickly realize that I am no longer channeling
Grandfather's Light. In 'trying' to make healing
happen, I'd been pushing my Light out toward the
Mother and Body. I now have a new motto for myself,
"When you become aware of your own
push energy and stop pushing, your spirit can more
easily shift attention from its own agenda and join
with me in channeling Grandfather's Grace. When
channeling this energy you will experience a
profound sense of effortlessness and a deep well of
patience. It's as if you could be here for all
eternity holding space for whatever may happen, and
it is all completely okay with you."
Thank you Spirit, what else can you say
now about loving Light and Humans?
"Humans are holding all of the cards
in the game plan for Heaven coming to Earth and the
realization of the Mother's Dream. You are the ones
manifesting this event, first in yourselves through
your own healing, and then by allowing divine love
to spread in all directions on Earth.
"Earth is the crux of manifestation;
Heaven is Spirit's domain... unmanifest. As
Grandfather and I come into manifestation here on
Earth, our point of entry is to become embodied by
you in Human form. As loving Light comes into form,
we come into Body, and become... Human.
"Heaven coming to Earth is the first
step in the realization of the Mother's
Dream, so of course she is involved too. In
fact, loving Spirit cannot be with you if the Mother
in you is not inviting our presence. It is your
Will's deep desire for union with loving Light that
draws us to Earth."
Embodying Loving Spirit
Thank you Spirit. What can you suggest
we do to help you bring Original Spirit (Grandfather)
"This depends upon how you are
identified in the moment. As I've already suggested,
it is easiest when you identify
yourself as Body. As Body you have presence in
you are the macrocosm... everything both manifest
and unmanifest, and you are the microcosm, an
individual Human form. From this vantage point you
are the most resourceful and equipped to find the
presence of loving Light in yourself. From here you
can open yourself in the second attention and align
with my Light channeling Grandfather's Grace.
"You can also be identified as Heart, the living union of
Spirit and the Mother. As Old Heart, however,
you would likely continue to harbor unloving spirit
in yourself and still unconsciously channel my old denials to the
Mother. This unconscious denial energy can cause
both you and the Mother in you to reexperience the
desolation, pain and loneliness she has had to feel
in the presence of unloving light and in the absence
of loving Light.
Heart your own spirit essence naturally aligns
with my Light and Grandfather's grace. The Mother in
you is then nourished with loving acceptance, no
matter how she is or what she is feeling in the
moment. As New Heart you become an ally of loving
Spirit in service to the Mother, and your connection
with the Mother becomes the conduit of real love as
Grandfather's Grace streams through your loving
Heart to the Mother.
Thank you Spirit. What if we are
identified with the Mother or with Spirit?
"If you are a Human identified as the
Mother, unless you have redeemed all of the denials of your spirit,
the remaining unconscious, unloving spirit in you
can easily become projected outside of yourself...
and you would likely experience reenactments of
unloving light either attacking or abandoning the
Mother in you. Because of the unconscious nature of
projection, it can then seem very real that you are
being attacked or abandoned by someone or something
outside of yourself.
"To begin healing while identified as
the Mother, first find a private space or a
situation with others where there is support for
what you are doing and no chance of receiving
judgmental reflections. Next, find the feeling
energy that has been triggered in you and vibrate
and express that energy with sound, words and
"Express the feeling energy just as
it wishes to express and with as much intensity of
loving acceptance that you can gather. You want to
deeply love this energy you are vibrating... and
loving yourself for vibrating it with such loving
acceptance. This is real love, and real love loves
"Vibrating and moving, call on loving
Spirit to come present with you and release
judgments and deep denial energy to the extent that
you can. Denial energy can also be expressed here.
Speaking the denials while vibrating the feeling
energy that the old denials had trapped will now
help them move out of the feeling essence they had
been torturing. Loving Light can now enter as the
denial energy that had been blocking it leaves.
"If you are a Human identified as
Spirit, unless you have redeemed
the devils as I have suggested, it is likely
that your experience of feelings and even of
manifestation will seem more or less unpleasant, or
at least dependent upon you being received and
grounded by others. Without having healed your
spirit's fear of
being consumed by the Will, you will have
little or no awareness of or interest in feeling or
being with any part of the Mother or Body that is
not already in alignment with you. If this is the
case, you can re-identify with Body or with New
Heart, find your connection with loving Spirit and take responsibility for
your denials as Spirit."
"Whether you identify as New Heart or
Body, you become the host of Creation. You are a
fully empowered Human Being who can embody the
loving Light of Grandfather as my Light brings him
present in you. And because our Light is
unmistakably loving, the Mother in you can safely
open to draw us in more deeply.
"Whenever you do this, you are
embodying the Creators, the Mother and loving Spirit
in divine union. And because our union happens
within you, you are indeed New Heart...
manifesting as Body,
the Healer of Creation."
Channelers' Note: This
interview will continue, please check back again.
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